German Logistics Podcast: Das Gleiche in Grün?!

Sustainability and logistics – can the two be combined? Even if we answer with yes, there’s still the question of how to do it. Our latest podcast series “Das Gleiche in Grün?!”, offered exclusively in German, highlights good examples, while also pointing out areas for improvement. Every 2 weeks, Prof. Moritz Petersen, Timo Landener (Swisslog) in the channel of "Irgendwas mit Logistik" with experts from the sector. We invite you to listen in and be inspired.

Das Gleiche in Grün #1 – Andreas, Timo and Moritz present the new format

In the first episode of “Das Gleiche in Grün!?”, Andreas talks with the brand-new podcast hosts Timo Landener and Moritz Petersen about their plans for the new format and a review of the status quo. Timo is Head of Innovation Management at Swisslog and an old pro when it comes to intralogistics. Moritz is a Professor for Sustainable Supply Chains at KLU, Director of the Center for Sustainable Logistics and Supply Chains (CSLS), and chiefly focuses on transport processes.

  • How far has logistics come in terms of sustainability and how far does it still need to go?
  • Which aspects have to be kept in mind and how do you get started?
  • How do you manage to see past “greenwashing?”
  • And what does all this have to do with circular economies?

Das Gleiche in Grün #2 with Kay Simon from MEWA Textilservice

Cargo bikes and hydrogen-powered trucks: while people have plenty to say about the pros and cons, very few have any hands-on experience. In Episode 2, Timo and Moritz speak with someone who has already tried out both alternatives to using diesel trucks for emissions-free deliveries: Kay Simon from MEWA Textilservice. Timo and Moritz learn plenty from Simon – including what paper towels and parking garages have in common.

  • How can cargo bikes be introduced for inner-city deliveries?
  • How can you find suitable logistics real estate in inner cities?
  • Are hydrogen-powered trucks actually more expensive than diesel?
  • How can employees be made part of this transformation?

Das Gleiche in Grün #3 with Jakob Muus from tracks

“You can’t manage what you can’t measure” – this maxim, which has long-since become a fixture in business administration, still doesn’t seem to have caught on when it comes to calculating emissions. Especially in terms of Scope 3 emissions, “guesstimations” are still widespread. In Episode 3, Timo and Moritz speak with someone whose company is dedicated to data-based decision-making: Jakob Muus from tracks.

  • How are emissions currently calculated in logistics?
  • How do data-based approaches help us make better decisions?
  • Why do we need digital twins for drivers?
  • After his company was founded, how hard was it to get their foot in the door?

Das Gleiche in Grün #4 with Wolfgang Lehmacher

How far has logistics come in terms of decarbonization and what trends can we expect to see in the next few years? To help tackle these difficult questions, Timo and Moritz invited Wolfgang Lehmacher. Wolfgang is an internationally respected logistics expert with a broad range of experience and a long, impressive CV. His view: it’s always a matter of taking two steps forward and one step back.

  • What’s the real stumbling block? Are the resources lacking, or is it the willingness?
  • Could local supply chains offer a solution?
  • Where can we find financial backing for the transformation? (spoiler: it’s already there)
  • How can a better grasp of complex interconnections in logistics and supply chain management, along with new partnerships, accelerate decarbonization?
  • Why is optimism not always a good thing and what do the decarbonization debate and launching a rocket have in common?

Das Gleiche in Grün #5 with Janine Zimmermann

In the previous episodes, Moritz and Timo mostly focused on the topic of transport. In this one, the two investigative podcast newbies will venture into uncharted territory: construction in general, and logistics real estate in particular.

Moritz and Timo speak with Janine Zimmermann from Drees & Sommer about how the “gray blobs” that are still commonly seen today might look in the future. In addition, you’ll find exciting glimpses behind the scenes of a lighthouse project with Levi Strauss: Germany’s first distribution center inspired by the “cradle-to-cradle” sustainability approach.

  • How expensive are sustainable building designs compared to purely functional concrete “blocks?”
  • How much potential for the circular economy concept does the construction industry hold?
  • Building from scratch or retrofitting – will that become the main question?
  • How can adopting an investment mentality with regard to building materials promote circular economies?

Das Gleiche in Grün # 6 with Mark Fabian Henkel from Zufall

The human being in the context of the family. What is true in one's own four walls is also mostly true in the classic family businesses of the republic. Value-driven visions and missions that (mostly) go beyond the exclusively monetary. Timo and Andreas talked to Mark from Zufall Logistik about his own personal development, in particular how becoming and being a father has changed his view of the world. And moreover, what such values and, accordingly, sustainability have meant, mean and will mean for a family business. A short exciting outline from the center of the logistics middle class in family hands.

  • How can a family business act sustainably?
  • How can visions be designed to connect with people?
  • How does the recruitment process change?
  • Are you looking for specialists or do you want to be found?
  • Is it okay to choose customers?

Just press play, sit back, listen and be inspired.

Das Gleiche in Grün #7 with Jonas Stumpf from HELP Logistics

In the event of a disaster, fast help is needed - well-prepared humanitarian logistics is key. But things don't always work out smoothly. Jonas Stumpf and his team from HELP Logistics train international aid organizations such as the World Food Program or the UN Refugee Agency so that they can provide aid more efficiently... and also more sustainably! Because sustainability is also rapidly gaining importance in humanitarian logistics.

  • What exactly is humanitarian logistics? What does a crisis operation look like in practice?
  • How does climate change affect the humanitarian sector?
  • What are the levers to reduce the sector's footprint without compromising its performance?
  • Is local sourcing a viable option for humanitarian organizations?
  • And why can every euro spent before disaster save seven euros when disaster strikes? Timo and Moritz say, "An episode with a special angle on the relevance of logistics. 100/100 points." Well, tune in quickly!

Das Gleiche in Grün #8 with Isa Kohn from Rhenus

How can one manage the sustainability activities of a logistics service provider that offers almost everything from last-mile delivery to bulk logistics? And as a sustainability expert, isn't one working towards the abolition of one's own job? Timo and Moritz discuss these and many other exciting topics with Isa Kohn, Head of Sustainability at Rhenus, in the new episode of this podcast series.

  • How do you set up a management unit for sustainability? And how do you take the very different business units along with you?
  • How do you determine which areas to invest in first?
  • Where does the transformation work well? Where is sustainability more difficult to address?
  • How do you stay on top of a broad and dynamic issue like sustainability?
  • When will truly sustainable business become the new business-as-usual?

Das Gleiche in Grün #9 with Friederike Hesse

ETS, IMO and CII... What sounds like the beginning of a rap song from the 90s is now setting the tone for more sustainability in international shipping. Timo and Moritz talk today with Friederike Hesse, Co-Founder and Managing Director of zero44, about how exactly and what the abbreviations actually mean.

  • What exactly does zero44 do and why did Friederike choose the shipping industry to start a business?
  • What does the shipping market actually look like and which participants are there?
  • What are CII and ETS and how do these regulations affect the value of ships?
  • How do you establish transparency on emissions? And what impact will this factor have on operations in the future?

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